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Does it sound like CP to you?

Postby jjsmomma » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:00 pm

Hi there, first off let me preface this by letting you know that both the neurologist and ped have stated Kai has mild CP. It is just so confusing to me and I am having trouble determining what is just him being a 'normal' infant and what is indicative of CP. Secondly, let me say that I know how lucky we are...how lucky he is. There are many many things that could be wrong and I recognize that and am appreciative for what is right. Our story....

So turn the clock back 7 months.....my 18 month old son JJ was dx'd with Type 1 Diabetes (insulin dependent) require a grueling regime of blood checks every 2-3 hours, counting carbs, calculating correction factors and insulin dosages, no snacking between meals and shots and administering 6-8 insulin needles a day...oh yeah, and I am 36 weeks pregnant at the time. 5 weeks later my precious Kai is born, healthy and full term. After a week I can tell something is wrong...12 days post birth we are in the hospital with Kai having seizures, septic shock and bacterial meningitis requiring more medical tests and procedures than I have ever had in my 38 years of life. Prognosis is good, caught the meningitis super early, he looks good, feeds well, all primary responses seem to be well intergrated. Everyone is pleased and aside from a confusing CAT scan where the word eschemia was improperly used by a resident, the prognosis is coming up roses. Fastforward 3 months....Kai, now 4 months old has his right hand clenched in a fist and his right eye is squinty. Ped states he has CP and sends in a referral for OT and PT. 2 months following (Kai is almost 6 months old) we have another appt with the neurologist...I mention Kai is meeting most, if not all of his 6 month milestones but has a tendancy of hitting himself repeatedly in the side and belly with his outstretched right arm when excited or upset. She notices he also `sometimes` is clenching that right hand. She confirms the CP diagnosis. OK....I am not a doctor and I am certainly not a brain surgeon....but it just seems to me that this `might`be normal infancy tendancies. Kai is the sweetest thing...we passed all audiology exams, his vision and tracking is good, he is socially responsive and appropriately so. He won`t drink from a bottle and won`t tolerate any solids yet. He will only sleep for 2 hours at a time (yes, even at night) and gets highly aggitated if I am not close by. he also suffered (and still may be suffering) from reflux pretty badly. Now, these needs could be because when he super sick and in the hospital I stayed with him 24-7 and cuddled with him every night on those horrible hospital cots. Or it could be because he just needs that. Or it could be something else.

No one can confirm anything....and it is making me mental. I can handle it if I need to....I can be strong and do the work. But I just need to know. The OTs and PTs won`t be able to see us for another 8 weeks. I hate this waiting. The fisting...the right arm repetitive banging...the squinty eye....the high emotional sensitivity...is it just an infant thing, or does it sound like I`ll be a regular on this board. If you can help, share some experiences etc etc I would really appreciate it. They have told us that the next 6 months we will see more tone issues and the problem areas will be clearer. Help please if you can. Many thanks.
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Re: Does it sound like CP to you?

Postby Bennysmom » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:45 am

Hello,

I don't think anyone could tell you for sure if it is CP or not since none of us are doctors. He does sound like he has some tendancys of CP but CP can be so many different symptoms and things and there a so many different degrees and kinds it's hard to know.

Our son started with a weak trunk and spastic limbs. He is always fisted in his left hand and sometimes is in his right. his right side seems to be stronger. His hearing is fine but he has trouble with eye sight although some CP are fine with both and some have problems with both.

Ben does have his spasims and hit himself accidentally. Ben does not have seizures but we know they could happen later on.

I will say if your son does have CP it is a grieving and learning process. You will start out saying it is mild and hopefully that is true. In our case we said well maybe he will just walk a little different and have now come all the way to accepting Ben will most likely always be in a wheelchair. I found I started saying milk and have come all the way to fairly sever. The more doctors I saw the more I understood my son. Physio and Occupational helped by explaining to me how much to expect from my son.

I hope your son is fine but if he has CP you will make it through that too. Its frustrating not being able to know how much your baby will be able to do in the future but you'll get there.
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Re: Does it sound like CP to you?

Postby suemairi » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:41 pm

Hi
Our 3 year old started having seizures within a day of being born and after a week in Special Care was eventually given an MRI which confirmed he'd suffered a stroke at birth. The MRI showed damage to the right side of his brain which we were told meant the left side of his body would be affected. We were told he had a 50%chance of "significant problems"but it would be apparent by the end of the first year. He had no more seizures after the first few days but continued on anti-convulsants for 6 months. He was then weaned off and nothing since. He reached all his milestones and we relaxed. He began to walk at 18 months and when months later his walking was still awkward (had tendency to go up on tiptoe on left side) we asked about physio. We had also noticed that he showed a marked preference for using his right hand, though was able to use his left and would when he had to). When the physio visited she referred to him as having "mild cerebral palsy". It was the first time anyone had used this term regarding our wee boy, we had no idea he had this diagnosis, and were devastated. Slowly though, I realised that the diagnosis was irrelevent. This was the same wee boy who was still doing brilliantly, if a little unsteady on his feet at points! The Physio also explained that CP is a blanket term used to describe someone who has these problems with muscle tone and can vary hugely. Our wee boy is mildly affected and should lead a normal life, even if he will never be able to run or excel in sports. I have struggled at points with this but then remember the initial prognosesandcount myself lucky..Hope things turn out well for you too.
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Re: Does it sound like CP to you?

Postby LeaciesMum » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:03 pm

Hi there, what the other ladies have said is good information. To be quite honest if it is CP your son has it's fantastic that they have picked it up so early so you can start on the PT and OT before the tone issues become more obvious.

Just a quick bit about our story, Leacie is the youngest of my 5, they were all early with their milestones, crawling at 6mths and walking between 8 and 9mths. So when Leacie still couldn't sit unsupported or even get into a sitting position by 7mths I started to take notice. She was always fisted (both hands) and I had trouble 'bicycling' her legs, they were stiff. I took my concerns to the Maternal Child Health Nurse and she didn't notice anything to worry about so I went home and googled 'stiff legs'. CP came up over and over again, on reading more about it I knew that's what my girl had. Then off to the GP and she too thought that might be what it was so she got me into a paediatrician and PT. This is when it seemed my life was spinning out of control.

Eventually we got into the Royal Childrens Hospital's CP clinic and into an ECIS program. I have the PT and OT come to my home twice a fn and do hydrotherapy fn'ly too. My paediatrician is one of the leading doctors in Australia so I am so fortunate to have her, she did an MRI which came back normal so then we went through the process of testing for metabolic disorders. Numerous tests later even those are clear so it seems our girl is just one of the 9% with CP that has a normal MRI.

As Leacie got older the spasticity got worse, and when she goes through growth spurts its worse still and quite painful on her joints. At first (at 8mths) we were told that Leacie's CP would only be mild diplegia, best case senario she'd walk clumsilly, worst case senario she'd need a walking frame. But sadly as she got older (she's just turned 4) they've changed her diagnosis to severe quadraplegia. On the GMFSC she's a level 4, which basically means she'll probably never walk unassisted. But I do thank the Lord every day that although she is severe she is incredibly bright and can has no issues with her speech, eyesight or hearing.

Leacie has had botox injections twice now and is due for another lot soon as she's just gone through a HUGE growth spurt and has become very stiff. She's also had to have an aductor release (tendons in the groin). She now has a wheelchair and a Hart walker. She is an incredible little girl with a winning personality and I can't see her CP holding her back from attaining great things in life. That doesn't mean to say I don't have the occassional 'why her' days where I feel so terribly sad for her. :(

I do feel for you though, it seems you already had a lot on your plate with your oldest son. I can never understand why it seems some people end up with more than one child with medical issues. (my oldest son 21 has an intelectual disability). All I can suggest is take one day at a time, try not to look too far into the future because we really don't know what it holds and sometimes that's too scary to contemplate. I know for me the 'waiting' for EVERYTHING (tests, diagnosis, aids and equipment, funding etc) is THE hardest part, I always want everything NOW. But I know since having Leacie she's taught me to slow down and smell the roses. :D
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